Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Hindsight 20/20? We'll find out.

So we've got the media all down our backs for a "horrible" draft we had. Peter King had nothing good to say. Dave-Te Thomas had nothing good to say, as well as many others. So what do they think we could have done better?

Personally, while I lacked excitement about our draft, I can't be upset, as I felt we received some pretty solid players, including in our trades.

What exactly went down?

#5 Pick- Browns fans stood up watching Cleveland on the clock. Some of us wanted Orakpo, Raji, Crabtree, Sanchez, and most of us wanted to trade down. Most of us got what we wanted. We sent pick #5 overall to the New York Jets for safety Abram Elam, defensive end Kenyon Coleman, quarterback Brett Ratliff, along with picks 17 overall (First) and 52 overall (Second).

What would I change?
- The only thing differently I would have liked is a 6th or 7th rounder to add another camp body. New York Jets select Mark Sanchez, bust... I mean quarterback, USC. However, I loved this trade. We don't have to pay for a top 5-10 pick, and we add a quality starter at defensive end, a #2 quarterback, and a starting strong safety. Great move.

#17 Pick- The Cleveland Browns trade pick #17 overall to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for pick #19 overall (First), and pick #191 (Sixth). Tampa Bay selected Josh Freeman, quarterback, Kansas State.

What would I change?
- I think we could have received a 4th/5th rounder from Tampa Bay. They really wanted Freeman, and we just played the nice guys, and said, "sure, just give us a 6th or something, and you can have it".

#19 Pick- The Cleveland Browns trade pick #19 overall to the Philadelphia Eagles for pick #21 overall (First), and pick #195 (Sixth). Philadelphia selects wide receiver Jeremy Maclin.

What would I change?
- Absolutely nothing. We weren't ready to pick, and we added a late round pick. The Eagles knew that the Lions weren't going for Maclin, but wanted to grab him right away, just in case we were looking at him.

#21 Pick- The Cleveland Browns select center, Alex Mack, University of California. Mack is a versatile center. Mack is a hard working, intelligent player. He's got outstanding leverage, and finishes every play. Most importantly for offensive lineman, he's durable. He doesn't have many negatives about him, which is fantastic.

What would I change?
- First, let me say that we needed a center/guard badly. I'm not disappointed with this pick, however, Eric Wood, Antoine Caldwell, and even Max Unger were guys that we could have had in a later round or two. Chris Wells, Evander "Ziggy" Hood, Clay Matthews III, Vontae Davis and even Donald Brown (who I am not that high on), could have all been better picks at #21. However, we made our offensive line much stronger. I'm hoping that we will start Hadnot at center for a year (his natural position), and give Mack work at guard. I don't want to overwhelm him too much. His sophomore year he can take over at center.

Pick #36- The Cleveland Browns select wide receiver, Brian Robiskie, Ohio State. Robiskie is an excellent possession receiver, with great hands. He runs very crisp routes, and would have been a 1st round pick, had the Buckeyes had a true quarterback to throw to him.

What would I change?
- Wide receiver is a need for us. I wouldn't change it a bit. He compliments Braylon very well, and we need another option for Brady Quinn.

Pick #50- The Cleveland Browns select wide receiver, Mohammed Massoquoi, Georgia. Massaquoi is a wide receiver who does his best work in the middle of the field, underneath the secondary. However, he has a huge problem with dropped balls. Out of 81 balls thrown to him his senior season, he caught 41 of them. I believe only 13 or so were deflected. Now the difference isn't necessarily drops, but he's obviously not working as hard as he can to catch the football.

What would I change?
- We really need cornerback depth, an outside linebacker, a right tackle and a running back. Phil Loadholt, while not the best left tackle in college, fits the right tackle spot perfectly. He's an excellent run blocker, who has a great reach and will do well in pass blocking. Paul Kruger is a 6'4 265 pound monster edge rusher. Kruger absolutely ate up Alabama in his bowl game, and was very underrated the entire season for Utah. Kruger on the other side of Wimbely could make offenses cry. Sean Smith is a corner/safety from Utah who has a ton of upside. He's a large (6'4 215) guy who can make tackles and plays very well in man to man. He could have been used as a nickel back or compete for the starting safety position.

Pick #52- The Cleveland Browns select defensive end/outside linebacker, David Veikune, University of Hawaii. Veikune is a hard working power rusher who has good speed. He's a tough hitter, and plays contain very well.

What would I change?
- I like Veikune a lot. However, I question his ability to learn the playbook, drop back in coverage, and overpower NFL tackles. Loadholt, Kruger, Smith, and William Beatty were all available, and I think we could have gotten better value. Jarron Gilbert and Shonn Greene were also available.

The Browns had a late start to day two, lacking a third round pick. It wasn't until the 4th pick in the 4th round did we have a selection.

Pick #104- The Cleveland Browns select linebacker, Kaluka Maiava, USC. Maiava is a quick hitting linebacker who was a special teams guy for 3 years in USC. He got a lot of playing time and was USC's 4th best linebacker (which isn't necessarily a bad thing as they were talented).

What would I change?
- Maiava is undersized to play in this 3-4 defense, in my opinion. He's going to be a great special teams player, but won't see much playing time unless we switch to a Tampa 2 defense and he becomes a weak side OLB. Vaughn Martin, defensive tackle, Western Ontario, Shawn Nelson, tight end, Southern Miss, or Lawrence Sidbury Jr., outside linebacker, Richmond would have all been better choices. Vaughn Martin is one of the most underrated players in the draft. He's a big guy who would be a great nose tackle in a 3-4. He absolutely over powers people. He's going to have a great career in San Diego. Sidbury Jr. is a project edge rusher with good upside. Shawn Nelson is an athletic tight end with very good hands. We don't know who we really have at tight end with Rucker, and an aging Steve Heiden.

Pick #177- The Cleveland Browns select cornerback, Don Carey, Norfolk State. Carey is a speedy guy with good cover skills. He's not well known because of his smaller school play, but he's a sixth round project.

What would I change?
- I would have looked at Bear Pascoe, tight end, Fresno State. But you can't go wrong with a project guy who has a history of hard work. He's a perfect Mangini guy.

Pick #191- The Cleveland Browns select cornerback, Coye Francis, San Jose State. Francis is a taller, more athletic guy who did well in zone coverage and returning kicks.

What would I change?
- Mangini took a bit of a chance here as Francis has had a small character issue. He's not a bad person at all, and he's another great project pick.

Pick #195- The Cleveland Browns select running back, James Davis, Clemson. Davis is a hard runner, very hard. He's a tank to take down, and is great right up the middle.

What would I change?
- Not a thing. I don't think he's an every down back. Most 6th round running backs aren't. However, with an impressive training camp, he could find his way past the practice squad and onto the 53 man roster with his ability to split the middle of the defense. He's a tough guy to bring down, however is extremely poor in pass protection. He's a 2nd-3rd round talent who slipped due to a poor 40 yard dash time, and because his production declined thanks to Clemson's switch to a zone blocking scheme which they just could not excecute at all in 2008. I think Davis was a steal. But don't be surprised if he doesn't fare well as a Brown. He's a 6th rounder, but he's also a hard working kid who's a Mangini guy.


Overall, I think we got solid value in our draft, but we got a lot more projects than I think we needed. Veikune is a guy who the Browns want to make into an OLB/ILB. Maiva is a special teams guy who should not have been draft so high, and Massoquoi is a huge risk with his poor hands.

If I were George Kokinis, my draft would have played out like this:

#21- Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio State- This is not my Ohio State bias. He's just not as injury prone as people make him out to be. He missed 3 starts in 3 seasons. Those 3 starts were all in his junior season as Ohio State. He missed the 2nd half of the Texas game with, what I believe was a concussion. 3.5 games I guess you could say. However, he's a perfect north/south runner that the Browns need in the AFC North. Clay Matthews Jr. is the other player I'd have considered along with Beanie.


#36- Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State- After Braylon, there's no telling who our wide receivers could be. David Patten is injury prone and is a better slot receiver, Josh Cribbs isn't a full time receiver, Syndric Steptoe is afraid to catch the ball in the middle of the field, and we traded Kellen Winslow who was our most efficient pass catcher.

#50- Paul Kruger, DE/OLB, Utah- Kruger is a tough, physical pass rusher who makes offensive tackles pee themselves. He comes at you hard, and is a very hard worker that fits the mold of a 3-4 outside linebacker better than most in the draft.

#52- Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah- Smith is a versatile guy, which is important in our secondary. If we have an injury at safety, he can step in and we probably wouldn't miss a beat. However, he's a tough corner who jams receivers at the line and can take a hit from a runner coming at him.

#104- Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario- I'm not confident that Shaun Smith will be on this team much longer, and I don't know if Rubin is a guy that can play nose tackle consistently if Rogers needs a breather. Martin is a guy who could probably step in right away and contribute, and maybe let us experiment with Shaun Rogers at defensive end. He's a power guy who controls centers which forces the running back to look elsewhere for a hole.

#177- Bear Pascoe, TE, Fresno St.- Pascoe is a physical tight end who is in the Steve Heiden mold. He's an efficient run blocker, and he's not too shabby with the hands. He's a tall guy who'd be a great red zone talent.

#191- Don Carey, CB, Norfolk State- I loved the Carey pick. I think he slips a few more spots from #177.

#195- A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn St.- Shipley is a smaller, more athletic center, but most importantly very smart. He'd be a guy who could come in and start in a season or two.


I know I didn't address the offensive line until the last pick, but I think with our free agent signings we could wait another season before drafting a more quality center, right guard, or even right tackle. I think people undersestimate St. Clair at the right tackle spot, and I truly think Tucker will stay healthy all season. If he doesn't we still have Womack to play right guard and Hadnot to play center. Regardless, there's a reason why I'm not the Cleveland Browns general manager, and hopefully we'll prove all the members of the media wrong who doubt us. We've got a lot of talent to play with and we'll see how Mangini and Co. handle these athletes. Perhaps the Browns can become a playoff team in 2 years or less, however, it's quite possible that we end up back at the bottom of the AFC North.

I'm sometimes an optimist, so I'm thinking the former.

3 comments:

  1. You got the right idea kid, but the big problem I have with the draft is not what we took, but what we did not take.

    As much as I wanted more out of all the trading down, for example, I believe it was the Eagles who traded up 4 spots in the 3rd or 4th round and got a 4th rounder for it. We traded down twice and pulled a 6th each time. As far as only getting a 2nd out of the Sanchez trade - We probably could’ve got more, but we weren’t going to scare the Jets off by requesting more than we knew they would accept. I can easily live with trading down out of the 5th as I probably would’ve traded the 17th for 5th straight up just to avoid paying someone $40 million guaranteed. As far as I see it we traded Sanchez for Mack, Robiskie, Abram Elam, Coleman, Ratliff (great pick up) and that I think anyone would be hard pressed to be upset about.

    As far as the draft goes, I won’t sit here and pretend that I’m happy about what we did, but I’m not entirely upset with it either. I agree with most of the experts and I’d give us about a C+ or D. It’s not so much about who we picked, it’s about who we DIDN’T pick and what we left on the table.

    1 - Mack - Center was not our biggest need, but it was a need. A need worthy of 1st? Probably not, but you won’t ever hear me complain about building a better offensive line. Although, I probably would’ve went after Oher.

    2a - Robiskie - This is where I threw the remote across the room and stopped talking to those around me. As long as we have Braylon this could prove to be a nice pick - BUT - How we passed on Rey Maualuga here I will never understand, especially when Robo could’ve easily been had with our second or third 2nd rounder. It makes no sense to ignore your glaring weaknesses when you have a 1st round caliber LB sitting in your lap. We will regret passing on Maualuga twice a year for the next 10 years.

    Players still on the board:
    Maualuga
    Everett Brown
    Clint Sintim

    2b - Massaqoui - We’re beating a dead horse here. We’ve had consistently one of the worst defenses in the NFL since our return and we’ve yet to take a single defensive player.

    2c - David Veikuni - Again, this brought tears to my eyes. We have the chance to take a franchise RB and we drop the ball and take a project LB’er. Veikuni has potential to be pretty good, but you cannot pass on McCoy. The same goes for all the other players who were rated much higher, this pick was a real head-scratcher for me.

    Players left on the board:
    LeSean McCoy
    Phil Loadholt
    Sean Smith
    Sen’Derrick Marks
    Shawn Greene
    Jarron Gilbert
    Michael Johnson

    4 - Kaluka Maiava - Great linebacker, but no size whatsoever. I really like Maiava and started a number of threads about him. He could be excellent, but his 5’11’’ 225 pound stature is hard to get over. He could put on weight sure, but if he hasn’t already (especially at USC where roids are rampant and kids are huge) it’s not likely he will in the NFL or if his knees can support massive weight gain on such a small frame.

    Players on the board:
    Chip Vaughn
    Terrance Taylor

    6a - Don Carey - ORLY? Just what we need, another 20 year old CB.

    6b - Coye Francies - Come on now we just drafted one. Francies is better and has more potential than Carey, but I doubt either of these picks see the field within the next couple years. Francies has a chance to supplant Bmac has the #2 and move him to nickel, but not right away.

    6c - James Davis - Holy shit?! The Cleveland Browns are actually capable of drafting a RB? Who knows if he even makes the team (maybe as the #3), but I guess it’s the thought that counts. Last season he was thought of as a 2nd rounder, but like the rest of the Clemson players can tell you - this season killed all of them. I think he’ll make a pretty good rb - but I don’t like him more than Harrison. What we need is a bruiser, not 2 kids in a similar mold.

    Players left on the board:
    Cedric Peerman
    Vance Walker
    Captain Munnerlyn
    AQ Shipley
    Ricky Jean Francois
    Rashad Jennings
    Marko Mitchell

    My draft would’ve looked something like this

    1 - Mack, C, Cal
    2 - Maualuga, LB, USC
    2 - Robiskie, WR, OSU
    2 - LeSean McCoy, RB, Pitt
    4 - Chip Vaughn, S, Wake
    6 - Coye Francies, CB, Norfolk St
    6 - Marko Mitchell, WR, Nevada
    6 - Ricky Jean Francois, DE, LSU

    Now that is an excellent draft.

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  2. I wouldn't be opposed to that SC. Great to see you, btw. My biggest problem would be McCoy. I'm not a huge fan, especially in the AFC North. However, I wouldn't complain.

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  3. When are you coming back to football's future? =D

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